Tag: mom lalonde

tasty-salamanders:

daves-flying-boner-circus:

tasty-salamanders:

Imagine if Dave ever found out that technically (very technically) he and Jade are cousins.

I am sure that would go over well with all his issues.

EDIT: No wait, is Jade, Dave’s aunt? Damn the family tree is so confusing I confused myself.

dave and jade arent related 

Hussie has implied + concept art from Hiveswap suggests that Grandpa Jake adopted Mom Roxy.

Dave is her son.

If Grandpa Jake is Mom Roxy’s adoptive father that means he is also Dave’s adoptive grandfather.

Then it gets tricky with Jade, she is his biological daughter but adoptive granddaughter. This means Mom Roxy can be either be said to be Jade’s sister or Jade’s aunt.

If you go with sister than Jade is Dave’s aunt. If you go with aunt than Jade is Dave’s cousin.

I said it was really technical.

bramblepatch:

you know it kind of astounds me how much energy this fandom can spend on Strider ManpainTM when on the other hand 13-year-old Rose didn’t even know where her mother slept

I mean consider that for a moment

Mom Lalonde’s actual bedroom was in the lab. She presumably left the premises every night, leaving Rose alone in the house, and Rose had no clue

bramblepatch:

toochstuck:

tavs-kawaii-ass:

malkatz:

diamondsfuckingdroog:

triptrippy:

SHE GOT YOU A PONY SHUT UP

YOU LIVE IN A FREAKING MANSION WITH A GODDAMNED PONY

WHY ARE YOU SO MAD

I think that’s the joke

same with John hating his dad who does nothing but bake for and support him.

They’re 13. They want to be angsty. They want to be independent. Their parents and general lifestyle are in the way of both things.

But when they finally got that freedom they realized how much they missed their parents and their lifestyles. But it was too late to go back to all that, with their parents dead and their homes either in some strange place or just fucking gone completely. 

Character development: Some people don’t realize that in order for it to work characters have to start-off flawed and imperfect.

And also let’s not forget that pony and mansion notwithstanding, Mom is obsessively doing housework while drunk in the middle of a blackout which will shortly (if it has not already) escalate from “crazy fucking rainstorm” to “multiple meteor strikes and massive forest fire that threatens the house,” that she and Rose are nigh-incapable of effectively communicating with each other on any level, and that Rose is at this point completely unaware that Mom does not sleep in the house. The Lalondes have major problems with emotional intimacy, communication, and substance abuse, and that Mom can buy Rose a pony but not understand that Rose mistrusts and resents her is a symptom of this, not a remedy.

Rose will eventually grow, learn, and gain perspective on the situation, but that doesn’t mean that Mom Lalonde didn’t have some pretty severe issues in how she related to her daughter, or rather, how she couldn’t relate to her daughter.

random2908:

bramblepatch:

bramblepatch:

You know, beta!Roxy’s parenting style suddenly makes a lot more sense in the context of her having seen the specific ways that Jake Harley was a shitty parent and deciding to avoid all of his mistakes as hard as possible.

#okay but #she still. neglected her child so that didnt work out great.

That’s the point, really. You can’t really build a functional relationship with another person, let alone a person who is dependent on you, by focusing on not doing things. Even if the things you’re not doing are objective negatives. Not being a specific flavor of shitty parent doesn’t automatically shake out to being a good parent.

I’d definitely agree that Rose was neglected, but she was neglected in an entirely different way than Joey and Jude were neglected. Rose self-isolated because she was showered with so much generically positive attention that she stopped trusting it, and Roxy either didn’t understand why Rose was withdrawing, or didn’t know how to fix it, so she just doubled down. Roxy hid a lot of aspects of her life from Rose and presented an empty caricature of domestic motherhood as hard as she could to try to compensate, and all it taught Rose was that she ought to hide anything she cared about at any depth, too. Roxy kept the house so spotless that any area that isn’t Rose’s private space seems almost sterile, and the constant senseless housekeeping made Rose uncomfortable moving around her own home. None of these mark a healthy relationship! But they do all read as reactionary overcompensations for Jake Harley’s behavior toward his kids – the frequent extended absences, the passive exposure to his “trophies” which Joey, at least, seemed deeply upset by, the complete emotional distance with which he treats them, the lack of concern for their living conditions.

(And sidebar, but with how Joey doesn’t know anything about her long-term babysitter’s family and doesn’t feel comfortable asking but suspects that it’s not a happy situation? Yeah, I agree with Joey’s suspicions; Roxy probably didn’t have a lot of good parenting role models at home, either, whoever was raising her.)

The point isn’t “not being Jake justifies Roxy’s parenting,” it’s "a lot of healthy interpersonal dynamics are learned skills and the new canon contextualizes why Roxy doesn’t seem to have learned them despite appearing to have good intentions.”

I believe it’s been implied (maybe in the commentary in the Homestuck books?) that Roxy was actually raised by Jake Harley, before he had his own kids. So Jake is possibly all her direct parenting experience, except maybe observing Joey and Jude’s mom before she died.