I know Vriska has been lauded as the magic ingredient that kept the meteor from death spiraling through sheer force of narcissism, but you know what could have done that better?
All the kids travelling in the same place.
Rose was always the one who got Jade best. In close quarters, I’m confident she would have cracked Jade’s facade. Plus, Jade and Karkat were already calling each other out on a pretty regular basis. She wouldn’t have been able to get away with her repression.
Davesprite would have seen the warning signs for Rose’s drinking problem. Even if he was too deep in a funk at that point, I doubt Jade and John would have let her sink into it as much.
Karkat and John’s deathgrip vs laisse faire leadership styles might have clashed, bumped around, and evolved into something a bit more moderate and reasonable.
The Daves being exposed to each other for long periods of time could have helped them face, accept, and work through some of their issues with themselves and each other.
In general, there would be too many people running around to let people drop off the face of the earth/pair off in increasingly isolated and toxic dynamics. And of course, no matter what else happened, you’d have a Breath player on the loose – a Breath player with dreambubbles, planets, a meteor, and a whole bunch of friends to explore and interact with rather than feeling stifled and constrained. With that much initiative/networking/communication constantly in their faces, there’s no way things could have gotten as bad as they did.
Obviously that couldn’t happen because of Story Reasons, but man, if we were going to retcon the last several years in order to ‘fix’ everyone, this would have been more fun.
Maybe in a shocking twist of fate the next Scourge Sisters log will be that.
I really hope so!
I’m a big Scourge Sisters fan, and so far the interaction we got was nothing like their normal dynamic… no poking and prodding, no teasing, no black hints at all. This is not good, and I hope it gets amended at the first opportunity. Terezi are you okay
(also 100% truth on to topic of shared journey. The meteor problem was many people in a small space, and the battleship problem was way too few people in a vast space, and all together they’d be better off. Like, shared training sessions, instead of just Jade and John – and I’m pretty sure in the original meteor trip they discussed the lack of training grounds or anything constructive to do at all… John would have had something to apply himself to – half the meteor crew are ready-made prank target practice… etc)
Some people hate Homestuck because they think it’s about a boy who just stands around in his bedroom. I will not try to tell these people that they are wrong, but at least with my help they can easily lie to their friends by pretending that they have actually read Homestuck and enjoyed it.
Here are some choice plot points from acts 1 through 6, in no particular order:
Mark Twain is killed by a newborn baby dual-wielding flintlock pistols
Somebody chops a meteor in half with a sword
One of the villains builds a tall building full of staircases just to torment a guy in a wheelchair
About 90% of the characters are time travelers
Somebody attacks a planet by dropping a moon out of orbit
A god shows up and literally juggles a bunch of planets
A Prohibition-era mobster plows through a wall Kool-Aid Man style
The whole universe blows up
A completely different universe also blows up
The author jumps into the story and engages in melee combat with the devil himself
The creators of the universe track down the main characters to scream at them over the internet
Betty Crocker lands her alien spaceship on Earth
There are dinosaurs
I apologize for how much was left out of this summary. By the time it reaches completion, Homestuck will be longer than Leo Tolstoy’s famous novel War and Peace. If anyone wants to try writing a better summary, I wish them luck.
A) I think you mean one of the *heroes* builds a tall building full of staircases to torment a guy in a wheelchair
B) well I guess she IS a villain, but
C) she’s definitely one if the heroes… I think…
D) okay I think this got weird but then again it was already weird with her
E) the funny thing is she’s not even like an antihero, she’s literally trying to be a hero
F) my phone just autocorrected “hero” to “jerk” in that last bullet point and if that doesn’t just summarize her I don’t know what does
I’m so glad that your thought process 100% mirrored mine
anon, just for you, i just ctrl-f searched the entirety of homestuck and screenshotted every single instance of vriska saying “like,” as her inner valleygirlness is yearning to do.
notice how most of these happen while vriska is undergoing positive emotional development as (vriska), or while she’s on the meteor post-retcon? that indicates that she is more likely to be valleygirl-ish when she’s happier. therefore, vriska serket secretly has a californian accent.
Dave has no idea how to end a conversation. I mean, I knew he just never shut the fuck up, but i’m trying to tally the number of conversations and in acts 1-4, and dave has had like, 8, total. cause whenever someone else says goodbye he just keeps talking at them until they eventually come back instead of actually signing out of pesterchum like a normal person
my favorite part of this is how he’s literally exactly the same in real life conversations too. like in openbound pretty much everyone just sort of wanders away during conversations with him and he. just. keeps. going. and then in the finale karkat pretty much confirms that that’s a daily thing with him. Dave is just completely incapable of actually ending conversations and i love him.
so hussie based dave’s conversation style on his own, especially early on iirc
vriska aggressively being a ~good and helpful person~ and making sure everyone knows it and is watching her be like, SO, not morally reprehensible right now.
#Hey #I just Helped you there #That sure was a Helpful thing right? #that thing that I Did?? #That Help I gave you just now??? #It was a Nice thing to do wasn’t it *nods* #That’s just the kinda troll I am now you know #I’ve Changed #I’ve see the Error of my Selfish Ways ||||( #Yup #I’m totally ABOVE BOARD Now >::::)
*takes tagfic*
*steals into headcanon*
THIS is the kind of development I both want Vriska to get and can see her getting during 3 years
aggressively helpful and desperately needy for validation Vriska is the Vriska after my own heart
I mean that’s kind of what she was always like but in incredibly destructive missing-the-mark-entirely way
if she’s finally managed to channel it into ways people will giggle over but ultimately not want to kill her for
If you’re interested in seeing the discussion, it basically starts here.
Gotcha!
*reads*
…aaaand neither side presented any actual evidence. Only “it’s heavily implied” and “obviously”.
I have old headcanons of Condy which incorporate her actually caring about her empire a lot, if on a very abstract level, like a strategy game player. And also not being very good at ruling, because power was mostly pretty much handed to her on a silver platter.
Her not being involved with most of day to day decisions and a lot of what’s attributed to her being generated by her high-level underlings (purple down patriarchy) is very consistent with that, actually! She understood her own (interstellar, so presumably incorporating other species) empire so badly she drove humans to extinction. It’s also implied, of course, that she was good enough to take over Earth in the first place, but tbh power, privilege (which she had hella on her starting position as Sassacre’s wife) and long lifespan go a long way there… and it’s not like we know exactly how much help she had from, say, Doc…
Karkat respected Condy for being a capable leader, but I don’t think he understands how the power structure actually works, and how little leadership capabilities Condesce would need to hold her position. Especially if Doc/LE, being interested in keeping someone not too smart and not too empathetic (unlike Feferi) on the throne, put some effort towards keeping her there!
Condesce as a spoiled kid, less mature than Meenah, having no idea what to do with the big wide world without her favorite toys is a view that appeals to me a lot.
It does not make her a “force for good”, of course – in fact, it mostly makes her a force for nothing, making what contribution she had almost entirely neutral… well, a force for destruction given what she made of Earth *rolls eyes* double juggalo presidency??? this girl had no idea how governmnent actually works / is supposed to work..
IDK I’m just saying there is a grain of interesting there, and that the insistence that Condesce is responsible for ruling her empire as much as Karkat thinks she is, is not the only possible viewpoint!
BTW, the fact that there is a patriarchy – that troll society is heavily implied to have the same cultural gender binary with the same misogynistic undertones as our own – with the same slurs and all – is good evidence in favor of Condy not being nearly as much in control as it’s cool to imagine she is…
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