roachpatrol:

bluespock:

awesome-irit:

bemusedlybespectacled:

fenrisesque:

bisexualamy:

bluespock:

Oh, I’m sorry, I guess I must’ve hallucinated the part where he was LITERALLY RESURRECTED FROM THE DEAD.

Okay I finally have energy/enough sleep to respond to this.

Has no one on this website heard of the concept of coding???  Or more basically the fact that people in a religious group are not homogeneous and can have varying levels of practice???  No one is saying Spock is getting up here putting a kippah on and reading from a Torah but I swear people have to be willfully ignorant to ignore the parallels that SO MANY JEWS have pointed out between Vulcans’ HIGHLY MYSTICAL culture and Jewish mysticism.  These parallels are indicative of Jew coding, where the writer(s) don’t literally say “hey this character is Jewish” but they do about every other reference in the book besides explicitly saying it.  Vulcan Jewishness can’t even be classified as subtle but I swear unless Spock wore a T-shirt saying “I’m Jewish” people would be in (probably bluespock’s) inbox talking about how there’s not enough proof, as if everyone’s forgotten how to infer.  Did everyone need Gene Roddenberry and Leonard Nimoy to pull a Charles Dickens and refer to his only Jewish character as “the Jew” like a True Antisemite™ for this to sound believable?

Like Jew coding is a thing it’s a very real culture phenomenon, and it’s usually used negatively (just like queer coding) to give obviously evil/greedy/selfish characters Jewish characteristics.  Just like queer coded villains typically break gender/sexual binaries and hierarchies as part of their coding, Jew coded villains are money grubbing, large nosed, empathy-lacking outsiders who probably make children uncomfortable for good measure (because we can’t have the Jews corrupting our Good Christian Youth™).  And even if people don’t pick up on this explicitly they still start to subconsciously associate these characteristics, these JEWISH characteristics, with evil and sin.  Which is why it’s so important to have explicitly Jewish and Jew-coded HEROES in media, to combat this.  I honestly do not understand why people are so hell bent on taking that away.

Also if I hear one more person make the trite, tired argument that science and religion cannot coexist I’m going to hurl several history books at this website. That is a fabrication made up in the last century that has never before been the case and is still barely true.  Most scientists before 1850 were devout Christians (start with Issac Newton and just keep looking up his contemporaries and the scientists of the next half century; there are so many examples), and that’s not even getting into the amazing Muslim mathematicians that have existed over the past several centuries.  Albert Einstein was literally Jewish.  Like, literally left Nazi Germany for fear of being killed Jewish.  Like, people didn’t want to give his theories the time of day for YEARS because of antisemitism Jewish.

You can be spiritual/religious and still believe in science.  You can be a SCIENTIST and still be spiritual/religious.  Ironically, Vulcans are such a good example of that.  Their spirituality and their logic are present in different parts of their lives.  Their spirituality serves one purpose and their logic serves another. Shockingly, people can have different approaches to different concepts and problems.  Yet, people will continue to perpetuate the idea that science and religion are black and white opposites even though there’s barely a basis for it.

According to the novels, Spocks mother had Jewish family so if you count them as canon it’s literally canon that Spock is Jewish

has no one ever seen the Original Series episode “Patterns of Force”?

the episode where Kirk and Spock (played by the very Jewish William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy) beam down to an alien planet, Ekos, that has (because reasons) instituted a Nazi regime?

the episode where the Zeons (the aliens being persecuted by the Ekosians) are named things like Isak and Abrom?

the one where Kirk and Spock are arrested for being suspected Zeons? and then Spock, being “examined” by the Nazi scientists, is declared an obviously inferior and unintelligent subspecies because of the shape of his facial features, while we, the audience, know that he’s the goddamn science officer? THAT EPISODE?

like holy hot damn, they just about stopped short of having him read from the Torah. there’s coding and then there’s A TOTAL LACK OF SUBTLETY.

Has no one ever read Nemoy’s very own explanation that he devised the Vulcan salute from the Priestly Blessing position, representing the Hebrew letter Shin (ש)? Guess what? Jewish!

If you don’t want to read Leonard Nimoy’s biography, this part is on Wikipedia, for cripe’s sake!

I made a post about all of this awhile back, and despite its generally very positive reception, I’ve been receiving pitifully uneducated “SPOCK CAN’T BE JEWISH!!1!!!!” messages about it ever since. I’m so damn tired. 

At this point, I don’t even care if Spock is explicitly religious or not (despite the SIGNIFICANT evidence to display that he and most other Vulcans are at the very least spiritual)—the point is, the goyim who send these messages are displaying and exercising uninformed rhetoric rooted in a FUNDAMENTAL misunderstanding of how ethnoreligions work. 

You can blindly and unenlightenedly dismiss these fictional interpretations and analyses all you want, but at the end of the day, you still haven’t learned a damn thing about Judaism and Jewish identity.  

jews have been involved with science fiction since the start. you would not have science fiction as it is today without jews: not just people who were born to jewish parents but actual practicing jews sharing their values and practices and philosophies. they’re not guests in this house. they built it with you.