theothin:

theenglishmanwithallthebananas:

theenglishmanwithallthebananas:

Dave has no idea how to end a conversation. I mean, I knew he just never shut the fuck up, but i’m trying to tally the number of conversations and in acts 1-4, and dave has had like, 8, total. cause whenever someone else says goodbye he just keeps talking at them until they eventually come back instead of actually signing out of pesterchum like a normal person

my favorite part of this is how he’s literally exactly the same in real life conversations too. like in openbound pretty much everyone just sort of wanders away during conversations with him and he. just. keeps. going. and then in the finale karkat pretty much confirms that that’s a daily thing with him. Dave is just completely incapable of actually ending conversations and i love him.

so hussie based dave’s conversation style on his own, especially early on iirc

does this mean hussie is like this too

lilietsblog:

wecansexy:

vriska aggressively being a ~good and helpful person~ and making sure everyone knows it and is watching her be like, SO, not morally reprehensible right now. 

#Hey #I just Helped you there #That sure was a Helpful thing right? #that thing that I Did?? #That Help I gave you just now??? #It was a Nice thing to do wasn’t it *nods* #That’s just the kinda troll I am now you know #I’ve Changed #I’ve see the Error of my Selfish Ways ||||( #Yup #I’m totally ABOVE BOARD Now >::::)

*takes tagfic*
*steals into headcanon*

THIS is the kind of development I both want Vriska to get and can see her getting during 3 years

aggressively helpful and desperately needy for validation Vriska is the Vriska after my own heart

I mean that’s kind of what she was always like but in incredibly destructive missing-the-mark-entirely way

if she’s finally managed to channel it into ways people will giggle over but ultimately not want to kill her for

I WANNA

lilietsblog:

theothin

If you’re interested in seeing the discussion, it basically starts here.

Gotcha!
*reads*
…aaaand neither side presented any actual evidence. Only “it’s heavily implied” and “obviously”.

I have old headcanons of Condy which incorporate her actually caring about her empire a lot, if on a very abstract level, like a strategy game player. And also not being very good at ruling, because power was mostly pretty much handed to her on a silver platter.
Her not being involved with most of day to day decisions and a lot of what’s attributed to her being generated by her high-level underlings (purple down patriarchy) is very consistent with that, actually! She understood her own (interstellar, so presumably incorporating other species) empire so badly she drove humans to extinction. It’s also implied, of course, that she was good enough to take over Earth in the first place, but tbh power, privilege (which she had hella on her starting position as Sassacre’s wife) and long lifespan go a long way there… and it’s not like we know exactly how much help she had from, say, Doc…

Karkat respected Condy for being a capable leader, but I don’t think he understands how the power structure actually works, and how little leadership capabilities Condesce would need to hold her position. Especially if Doc/LE, being interested in keeping someone not too smart and not too empathetic (unlike Feferi) on the throne, put some effort towards keeping her there!

Condesce as a spoiled kid, less mature than Meenah, having no idea what to do with the big wide world without her favorite toys is a view that appeals to me a lot.
It does not make her a “force for good”, of course – in fact, it mostly makes her a force for nothing, making what contribution she had almost entirely neutral… well, a force for destruction given what she made of Earth *rolls eyes* double juggalo presidency??? this girl had no idea how governmnent actually works / is supposed to work..

IDK I’m just saying there is a grain of interesting there, and that the insistence that Condesce is responsible for ruling her empire as much as Karkat thinks she is, is not the only possible viewpoint!

BTW, the fact that there is a patriarchy – that troll society is heavily implied to have the same cultural gender binary with the same misogynistic undertones as our own – with the same slurs and all – is good evidence in favor of Condy not being nearly as much in control as it’s cool to imagine she is…

lilietsblog:

deliverusfromsburb:

deliverusfromsburb:

I find the way Homestuck characters tend to attack themselves via proxies very interesting. 

Ok so I saw someone reblog this and a bunch of the images were broken? But when I check it on my blog it looks ok… how does this look to everyone?

I would be concerned if my posts started breaking down. 

works for me…

lilietsblog:

deliverusfromsburb:

Ok I’ve got a tiny bit of time in between classes so I’ll try to answer this thoroughly

The fact that John is usually a chill lil dude is part of the reason why this grates on me, actually. John avoids condemning people. He thinks Karkat’s trolling is hilarious. Even though he clearly dislikes Davesprite in A6I2, he insists ‘no we’re friends we keep no secrets’ and sits on that until his explosion a year later. When he’s getting skeeved by Vriska’s behavior, he says ‘i like to try to stay friends with people even if they’re….’ Now, talking to a Rogue of Void is likely to make you a little more honest and up front. But since it’s pretty rare and extreme for John to say he hates someone, I felt like that was a much bigger deal and shouldn’t get swept under the rug so easily.

I guess you could draw comparisons to Con Air (he said it sucked, then turned around and decided he loved it again) but with people it seems like you ought to have a little more going on. It just seems weird to me that he went from going ‘she’s dangerous and I can’t justify unleashing her on the real world, in fact she kind of sucks and I realized even her own species finds her behavior abhorrent despite her using that to justify her actions earlier’ to ‘oh hey vriska I saved your life isn’t that great it’ll be cool to see you alive in 3 years l8r’

I would accept him going ‘ok Terezi must know best’, but he doesn’t seem to be thinking that way. I didn’t get the impression that he thought bringing Vriska back was risky but he decided to trust her… he seemed pretty down with it before, during, and after the fact. 

But I guess we’ll see. 

My interpretation of it is that John was not actually careful to not condemn the undeserving at all. He used the word “hate” in the context that he was confused what to feel about her. He was faced with a contradiction of his impression from the pesterlogs with the events in the dreambubbles, and hated this contradiction – John isn’t a boy who handles his expectations being broken easily (see: mental breakdown in dad’s room. Sure, it was just a straw that broke the camel’s back, but it’s telling that it went on that back at all)

John told Vriska that she was too dangerous for him to give her the ring. I understood that he meant not “I have weighed all options and it’s definitely 100% better for you to be dead and if you were alive I’d murder you” (which is definitely what it came across as of course) but “I am not sure I am up to the responsibility of deciding to give the cheating ring of negating death to you considering I don’t seem to know you as well as I thought I did”.
He also deferred to other trolls’ opinions and judgement of her, which at that moment was most everybody flying the fuck away.

It was not “I want her not resurrected”. It was “I don’t want to make the decision to resurrect her”.

Well, it wasn’t him that made the decision. It was Terezi, who is
1) a troll just like Vriska who knows better than John what Alternian values are;
2) Vriska’s friend who knows her for longer than John did;
3) a person who murdered her in the first place, so kind of more of an expert on the specific issue of Vriska being dead;
4) a Seer he trusts to fix everything.

There is no reason for him to doubt her, period.

lilietsblog:

iamreadinghs:

Mr. Cool Kid here is wearing the shades his best friend has sent him for his birthday even though he is inside his room.

Mr. Cool Kid here desperately tries to get his friends’ attention through rapping and ends up monologuing half of the time.

Mr. Cool Kid here fangirls about giving presents with a big sentimental value to his best friend and eagerly awaits his reaction, even resorting to contact others to know as soon as possible.

Mr. Cool Kid here is really just a NERD.

FANDOM TAKE FUCKING NOTICE

homestuckbecausereasons:

curlicuecal:

figsnstripes:

swimmingferret

Correction- you cannot harm Clover.
When Karkat was trying to actually hurt him with his sickle in the
flash he missed every single time. The instant Karkat stopped trying to
hurt Clover and simply tried to incapacitate him it worked. Clover is
only untouchable if it’s with lethal/harmful intent. This is why Droog
was able to hit Clover with a rolled up news paper in the Intermission.
It’s a ‘grey’ area, hence it working.

Karkat
doesn’t have some magical power or secretly BAMF or whatever- he just
stopped trying to actually kill Clover and simply tied him up. So he
still didn’t hurt Clover. Clover is not harmed. Karkat simply tied him
up. It’s the ‘grey’ area since it wasn’t an actual threat.

[Bolded for emphasis] What if that’s the actual lesson for Karkat to gain here? It matches up to what Kanaya said to him in the cave:

Back in Act 5 when Karkat had to take on Gamzee, he first disarmed his friends and then calmed Gamzee down using gentle affection. If Karkat had used violence like he did in Game Over, he probably would have died. I think this is specifically the reason Karkat was matched with Clover, to reassert that theme.

…Assuming there is more to come for Karkat, and that this is building up to his real super special accomplishment.

[herongale:] #karkat does not have super special luck trumping powers #he has super special PACIFIST POWERS which when engaged means he befriends or allies with those who would hurt him 

……………………..sooooo blood powers turn out to literally be about bonds and alliances between people.  I mean, I know it’s been said before, but it was always kind of allegorical and now I’m wondering if it’s actually just that straightforward.

I mean, it works really well, too?

karkat goes into the game with two teams and comes out w/ one, joined team

karkat goes in trying to destroy the humans and comes out BFFs 

karkat gets stabbed by slick, and forms the alliance that overthrows the queen and helps win their session

karkat shooshes gamzee and he lives, karkat charges in to kill gamzee and everyone dies

karkat stops trying to physically harm clover and comes out w/ a defeated lucky leprechaun w/ a crush, 

karkat charges in to kill lord english and dies

…wait I think I just talked myself around to ‘karkat should befriend caliborn’ ???

I love Karkat’s post-GO characterization so much. Figuring out how to do stuff without fighting!