sure john isnt dumb like a lot of the fandom depicts him to be but he def always been a chill lil dude. i guess he just realized that “eh terezi knows what she’s doing, might as well find something good in this.” it just honestly doesnt feel like inconsistency to me, just him feeling all diff about this and expressing different emotions at different times.

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deliverusfromsburb:

Ok I’ve got a tiny bit of time in between classes so I’ll try to answer this thoroughly

The fact that John is usually a chill lil dude is part of the reason why this grates on me, actually. John avoids condemning people. He thinks Karkat’s trolling is hilarious. Even though he clearly dislikes Davesprite in A6I2, he insists ‘no we’re friends we keep no secrets’ and sits on that until his explosion a year later. When he’s getting skeeved by Vriska’s behavior, he says ‘i like to try to stay friends with people even if they’re….’ Now, talking to a Rogue of Void is likely to make you a little more honest and up front. But since it’s pretty rare and extreme for John to say he hates someone, I felt like that was a much bigger deal and shouldn’t get swept under the rug so easily.

I guess you could draw comparisons to Con Air (he said it sucked, then turned around and decided he loved it again) but with people it seems like you ought to have a little more going on. It just seems weird to me that he went from going ‘she’s dangerous and I can’t justify unleashing her on the real world, in fact she kind of sucks and I realized even her own species finds her behavior abhorrent despite her using that to justify her actions earlier’ to ‘oh hey vriska I saved your life isn’t that great it’ll be cool to see you alive in 3 years l8r’

I would accept him going ‘ok Terezi must know best’, but he doesn’t seem to be thinking that way. I didn’t get the impression that he thought bringing Vriska back was risky but he decided to trust her… he seemed pretty down with it before, during, and after the fact. 

But I guess we’ll see. 

My interpretation of it is that John was not actually careful to not condemn the undeserving at all. He used the word “hate” in the context that he was confused what to feel about her. He was faced with a contradiction of his impression from the pesterlogs with the events in the dreambubbles, and hated this contradiction – John isn’t a boy who handles his expectations being broken easily (see: mental breakdown in dad’s room. Sure, it was just a straw that broke the camel’s back, but it’s telling that it went on that back at all)

John told Vriska that she was too dangerous for him to give her the ring. I understood that he meant not “I have weighed all options and it’s definitely 100% better for you to be dead and if you were alive I’d murder you” (which is definitely what it came across as of course) but “I am not sure I am up to the responsibility of deciding to give the cheating ring of negating death to you considering I don’t seem to know you as well as I thought I did”.
He also deferred to other trolls’ opinions and judgement of her, which at that moment was most everybody flying the fuck away.

It was not “I want her not resurrected”. It was “I don’t want to make the decision to resurrect her”.

Well, it wasn’t him that made the decision. It was Terezi, who is
1) a troll just like Vriska who knows better than John what Alternian values are;
2) Vriska’s friend who knows her for longer than John did;
3) a person who murdered her in the first place, so kind of more of an expert on the specific issue of Vriska being dead;
4) a Seer he trusts to fix everything.

There is no reason for him to doubt her, period.